Tuesday, June 20, 2017

John Holroyd Bagley and John Holroyd

John Holroyd Bagley (1806 - 1891) was a Hudson riverboat captain who was born in Providence, Rhode Island.1 He died in Catskill, New York.2 His grand-daughter, Emma (Bagley) Speed claimed he was the son of Luther and Sarah "Sally" (Baker) Bagley in 1911.3 Emma informs us "Luther Bagley, born about 1775 in Providence, Rhode Island, was a marble cutter and dealt in monuments; was justice of the peace; prominent in the Masonic order." From available records we know Luther Bagley married Sally Baker in 1804,4 and he died in 1809.5 His wife, Sarah Bagley died the next year leaving three small children.6 Two people claim to be children of this couple: Mary Malan (Bagley) Mason (1805-1891)7 and John H. Bagley. It is possible the third child was too young to remember and identify their parents or they died without leaving a clear record. It is also possible based on the 1810 census there was another child in the household who died before Sally.8 This leaves the following mysteries:
  • Who are the parents of Luther Bagley and Sarah Baker? John H. Bagley's family believed Luther was likely descended from Orlando Bagley's family.9 I think it is more likely Luther is the great grandson of Joseph Bagley(1672 -1743) the son of Samuel Bagley. Joseph has at least three grandsons (David, William and Joseph)  who could be the father of Luther Bagley and were living in the area when they died. The descendants of John Bagley could prove or disprove this with a genetic test. Of course, Luther Bagley may not be related to either of these Bagley families.
  • Where did John Bagley's middle name come from? John Holroyd was prominent in the Providence, Rhode Island Masonic Lodge. He was a local minister and the son-in-law of Reverend Gano.10 John H. Bagley's family speculates John Holroyd was a family friend.11 Another possibility is John Holroyd is the foster father of John Bagley. Emma Speed's description of her great-grandfather might be a blending of Luther Bagley and John Holroyd. The Freemasons may very well have taken it on themselves to look after the Bagley orphans either as a general civic duty, or because the family had a connection to Freemasonry.
  • Who cared for the Bagley children from the time of their mother's death to when they appear again in the public record? The records are thin for orphans. They are not listed in either parents estate papers. There are no records appointing guardians. There mother's obituary imply a community responsibility rather than individual responsibilities.12 If the guess that John Holroyd fostered John Bagley. It is possible someone named Malan fostered his older sister Mary.
  • How did fourteen year old John Bagley move from Providence, Rhode Island to Hudson, New York? The 1855 New York state census indicates John Bagley moved to Hudson 35 years before.13 In 1820, John would have been 14. Did he move with a guardian? Was he apprenticed to a ships captain? Was he sent as an indentured servant?
Notes
1. "Locals." Windham Journal. February 19, 1891.; Culyer Reynolds. Hudson-Mohawk Genealogical and Family Memoirs. (New York: Lewis Historical Publishing Company, 1911) 1681.
2. "Locals."; Reynolds. 1681.; "Death of John H. Bagley, Senior." Hudson Daily Evening Register. February 6, 1891.
3. Reynolds. 1681. Emma Speed is clearly the source for this information since it lists her father's Bagley ancestors and her mother's Van Hoesen ancestors.
4. James N. Arnold. Vital record of Rhode Island : 1636-1850 : first series : births, marriages and deaths : a family register for the people. (Providence: Narragansett Historical Publishing Company, 1895) Volume 7. 410.; "Rhode Island Town Marriages Index, 1639-1916," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F8VY-5MB : accessed 16 June 2017), Luther Bagley and Sally Baker, 09 Aug 1804; citing Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, United States, town halls, Rhode Island, and Rhode Island Historical Society, Providence; FHL microfilm 387.
5. Arnold. (1909) Volume 18. 246.; "Died." Providence Gazette. February 25, 1809. Volume XLV. Issue 2556. 3.; "Deaths." Columbia Phenix. February 25, 1809. Volume VII. Issue 370. 3.
6. "Died." Providence Gazette. December 1, 1810. Volume XLVI. Issue 2449. 3.; "Died." Rhode-Island American. November 30, 1810. Volume III. Issue 13. 3.
7. "Rhode Island Deaths and Burials, 1802-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F8ZZ-BFT : 6 December 2014), Sarah Bagley in entry for Mary Malam Mason, 21 Jun 1891; citing Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, reference ; FHL microfilm 2,023,154.
8."United States Census, 1810," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XH2H-LG2 : accessed 20 June 2017), Sarah Bagley, North District, Providence, Rhode Island, United States; citing p. 78, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 58; FHL microfilm 281,232. The 1810 lists 2 males under 5 and 2 females under 5 in the household of Sarah Bagley. They appear to be living in the right location based on Sarah's obituary.
9. Reynolds. 1681.
10. Henry Warren Rugg, History of Freemasonry in Rhode Island. (Providence: E.L. Freeman and Son. 1895) 84. 365. 491. 820. 822.
11. RossBagley, Octtober 24,  2011 (03:06PM), reponse to dave3114, "John Holroyd BAGLEY Jr, Hudson / Catskill NY" Ancestry Message Boards.  February 16, 2011. https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.bagley/920/mb.ashx
12."Died." Providence Gazette.; "Died." Rhode-Island American.
13, "New York State Census, 1855," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K6S2-FB4 : 19 November 2014), John H Bagley, Ward 1, Hudson City, Columbia, New York, United States; count clerk offices, New York; FHL microfilm 479,098.

Sunday, April 16, 2017

The Mysterious Lieutenant Josiah Bagley

In 1781, Ensign Josiah Bagley wrote to George Washington asking him for clemency on behalf of Edmund Burk.1 Burk was apparently convicted of being drunk , disobeying orders, and had endangered the life of Ensign Bagley. Josiah Bagley was a member of the NewYork Regiments that fought with George Washington.2 He probably enlisted in New York City, was appointed an Ensign and was promoted to Lieutenant.3 His military career is fairly well documented. His life before and after is something of a mystery.

Josiah Bagley, might be the son of Josiah Bagley and Martha Wenman. We know Martha and Josiah have a son Josiah christened at Trinity Episcopal Church in 1754.4 Unfortunately, while the elder Josiah's will probated in 1769 identifies his wife, Martha and brother-in-law, Richard Wenman, it does not identify any of his children by name.5 Freeholders in Manhattan include Josiah who is a mariner who registered in 1749 and Josiah Jr., a carpenter, and William, a laborer, who registered in 1752. The mariner is probably the father of the carpenter. The carpenter is likely the husband of Martha (Wenman) Bagley who is listed in his will as a ship joiner. William Bagley could be a younger brother, and uncle, a cousin, to the younger Josiah.6 Josiah, the mariner is likely the son of John Bagly and Mary (Jackson) Bagly christened in 1702 in Fairfield, Connecticut.7 John is most likely the son of Samuel Bagley of Weymouth Massachusetts.

After the war, Josiah Bagley received a land grant from the state of New York in 1790 for 1200 acres for his service in the America Revolution.8 He was given land in the military tract township of Tully and in the township of Fabius,9 but did not settle there.10 A family history claims the grant is in Genessee County.11 He was an original member of the New York State Society of the Cincinnati,12 but none of his descendants have joined.13 A Josiah Bagley is in the 1790 Census in Hillsdale New York.14 In the 1800 census a Josiah is still living in Hillsdale.15 In the 1820 census, there is a Josiah living in Hillsdale16 and Pembroke.17

A Josiah Bagley in Hillsdale died in 1848 and is buried in Green River Cemetery. He is generally associated with Lieutenant Josiah Bagley of the New York regiments.18 Alfred Bagley of Broome County New York was the grandson of a Josiah Bagley from Massachusetts. Alfred's father, Eli, was born in Columbia County New York in 1811.19 This raises the possibility that the Josiah Bagley in Hillsdale is not Lieutenant Bagley, but the father of Eli Bagley and grandfather of Alfred. It is also possible the Josiah Bagley buried in Berkshire county Massachusetts is not the Lieutenant Josiah Bagley from the New York Regiments.

In 184020 and 185021 there is a Josiah Bagley living in Genesee county New York. The one recorded in 1850 was born in 1771 in Massachusetts - too young to be Lieutenant Bagley.

1“To George Washington from Josiah Bagley, July 1781,” Founders Online, National Archives, last modified March 30, 2017, http://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/99-01-02-06558.
2Powell, William H. "List of Officers of the Army of the United States from 1779 to 1900." Hammersly and Co (New York: 1900) p. 13; Roberts, James A. "New York in the Revolution as Colony and State." Press of the Brandow Printing Company (Albany, New York: 1898) p. 40; "Calendar of Historical Manuscripts Related to the War in the Office of the Secretary of State, Albany, New York." Weed Parsons and Company (Albany NY: 1868) p. 48-49.
3 "Calendar of Historical Manuscripts" p. 48;  Hamersly, Thomas H. S. "Complete Regular Army Register of the United States for 100 Years." T. H. S. Hamersly (Washington, DC: 1881) p. 16; "Institution of the Society of the Cincinnati: Formed by the Officers of the ... - John Schuyler - Google Books." Institution of the Society of the Cincinnati: Formed by the Officers of the ... - John Schuyler - Google Books. N.p., n.d. Web. 15 Apr. 2017. <https://books.google.com/books?id=L5YLAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA156&lpg=PA156&dq=josiah+bagley+cincinnati&source=bl&ots=WMcrfwOc_N&sig=SM-arRN9dQEQh7FCexaYdCNwGME&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwigl7HKyabTAhXK7yYKHWojDdUQ6AEIKjAC#v=onepage&q=josiah%20bagley%20cincinnati&f=false>.
4"New York Births and Christenings, 1640-1962," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V2HD-J2K : 12 December 2014), Josiah Bagley, 13 Nov 1754; citing TRINITY CHURCH PARISH,NEW YORK,NEW YORK,NEW YORK, reference ; FHL microfilm 974.7 B2N V. 90-93.
5"New York Probate Records, 1629-1971," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-28622-14051-65?cc=1920234 : 28 May 2014), New York > Wills 1767-1769 vol 26 > image 338 of 377; county courthouses, New York.
6"The Burghers of New Amsterdam and the Freemen of New York. 1675-1866 - New York (N.Y.) - Google Books." The Burghers of New Amsterdam and the Freemen of New York. 1675-1866 - New York (N.Y.) - Google Books. N.p., n.d. Web. 31 Oct. 2014.
7Schenck, Elizabeth Hubbell. "The history of Fairfield, Fairfield County, Connecticut, from the settlement of the town in 1639 to 1818. (New York: 1905) Vol. 2 p. 475.
8Bockstruck, Lloyd DeWitt. Revolutionary War Bounty Land Grants. (Baltimore, MD : Genealogical Pub. Co.) 1996. p. 19.
9"NAMES OF SOLDIERS WHO DREW LOTS IN THE MILITARY TRACT." NAMES OF SOLDIERS WHO DREW LOTS IN THE MILITARY TRACT. N.p., n.d. Web. 15 Apr. 2017. <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyononda/SOLDLOTS.HTM>.
10"Onondaga's Centennial: Gleanings of a Century - Google Books." Onondaga's Centennial: Gleanings of a Century - Google Books. N.p., n.d. Web. 15 Apr. 2017. <https://books.google.com/books?id=iLJIAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA867&lpg=PA867&dq=onondaga+military+tract+%22josiah+bagley%22&source=bl&ots=O3dxzNBMvI&sig=cBJvU4DDTWs85HIEMjZ9EqtVVwY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjNzquXpKfTAhWq1IMKHahSB4cQ6AEINTAD#v=onepage&q=%22josiah%20bagley%22&f=false>.; "Index. The balloting book and other documents relating to military bounty lands in the state of New-York. Albany, 1825." . N.p., n.d. Web. 16 Apr. 2017. <http://tcpl.org/local-history/documents/nys-cny/Balloting_Book/Balloting_Book_p142to214.pdf>.
11Shirk, Ida M. "Descendants of Richard & Elizabeth (Ewen) Talbott of Popular Knowle, West River, Anne Arundel County, Maryland." Shirk Genealogical Publishing Com 2009. p. 398. The passage is very vague:
His father, Thomas Bagley, son of Josiah, a soldier in the Revolution, was granted two sections of land, 1,280 acres, by State Government in Genesee Co., N. Y., for military service
It is not clear if the father Thomas Bagley is the soldier or the grand-father is the soldier in the revolution. Since Thomas Bagley was born around 1758 - Josiah can not be his father but is more likely a brother or cousin, and the family confused Lieutenant Bagley with his father. There is no record of Thomas Bagley serving in the revolution on either side.
12"Records of the Revolutionary War: Containing the Military and Financial ... - William Thomas Roberts Saffell, George Washington, Charles Lee, Nathanael Greene - Google Books." Records of the Revolutionary War: Containing the Military and Financial ... - William Thomas Roberts Saffell, George Washington, Charles Lee, Nathanael Greene - Google Books. N.p., n.d. Web. 15 Apr. 2017. <https://books.google.com/books?id=mR4TAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA477&lpg=PA477&dq=josiah+bagley+cincinnati&source=bl&ots=Tx5W4lHPJu&sig=4qmZm8U6bDuHqH5XNELPlFdWsXg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwigl7HKyabTAhXK7yYKHWojDdUQ6AEIIzAA#v=onepage&q=josiah%20bagley%20cincinnati&f=false>.
13"The New York State Society of the Cincinnati." The New York State Society of the Cincinnati. N.p., n.d. Web. 15 Apr. 2017. <http://www.nycincinnati.org/Never.htm>.
14"United States Census, 1790," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHKP-661 : accessed 15 April 2017), Josiah Begley, Hillsdale, Columbia, New York, United States; citing p. 231, NARA microfilm publication M637, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 6; FHL microfilm 568,146.
15"United States Census, 1800," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHRC-143 : accessed 16 April 2017), Josiah Bagley, Hillsdale, Columbia, New York, United States; citing p. 1180, NARA microfilm publication M32, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 22; FHL microfilm 193,710.
16"United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch;(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHGF-KBN : accessed 16 April 2017), Josiah Bagley, Hillsdale, Columbia, New York, United States; citing p. 152, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 70; FHL microfilm 193,725.
17"United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHLV-8DT : accessed 16 April 2017), Josiah Bagley, Pembroke, Genesee, New York, United States; citing p. 217, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 72; FHL microfilm 193,727.
18"Revolutionary War SoldiersBuried in Columbia County, New York." Revolutionary War SoldiersBuried in Columbia County, New York. N.p., n.d. Web. 16 Apr. 2017. <http://www.newhorizonsgenealogicalservices.com/rev-ny-columbia-buried.htm>; "Lieut Josiah Bagley (1759 - 1848) - Find A Grave Memorial." Lieut Josiah Bagley (1759 - 1848) - Find A Grave Memorial. N.p., n.d. Web. 16 Apr. 2017. <https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSvcid=17703&GRid=42315000&>.; "Historic Burial Grounds in Egremont - Egremont Historical Commission." Historic Burial Grounds in Egremont - Egremont Historical Commission. N.p., n.d. Web. 16 Apr. 2017. <https://egremonthistory.org/our-historical-resources/historic-burial-grounds-in-egremont/>.
19"Biographical review : this volume contains biog...." Biographical review : this volume contains biog.... N.p., n.d. Web. 16 Apr. 2017. <https://archive.org/stream/biographicalrevi02bost#page/n487/mode/2up/search/Bagley>.
20"United States Census, 1840," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHT7-WM1 : 24 August 2015), Josiah Bagley, Darvin, Genesee, New York, United States; citing p. 599, NARA microfilm publication M704, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 287; FHL microfilm 17,188.
21"United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCY6-YTB : 9 November 2014), Josiah Bagley, Darien, Genesee, New York, United States; citing family 368, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

Friday, October 7, 2016

Lizzie Macdonald - the girl with five parents

I was traipsing through the gordian knot that is the Bagley families of New York, separating the various records of William Bagley into William born in New York and William born in Massachusetts. To make things interesting both lived in Brooklyn, at about the same time and were about the same age. I couldn't rely on my standard go to of newspaper stories to separate the two men.1 William from Massachusetts died in 1869 and had parents - David and Dorothy from Amesbury. In addition, his death was recorded in Amesbury leading many to confuse him with the gaggle of William Bagleys born in the last decade of the 18th century. I decided to tackle the records for David and Dorothy's descendants, to document clearly who belonged in which family.

David Bagley (1804-1886) was David and Dorothy's youngest son I can find on record. He had three children: Elizabeth Smith Bagley (1832-1888), Sarah Ann Bagley(1837-1917) - who was known for most of her life as Annie, and William David Bagley(1843-1920). Annie is one of the five parents of Lizzie Macdonald.2 Working through Annie's story lead me to Lizzie.

Lizzie Macdonald was born to Otis and Rhoda (Morgan) Chase in January 1858 most likely in Hampton Falls, New Hampshire.3 In the 1860 census, Liza H. Chase and her older brother, Frank W. Chase, were living with their parents in Seabrook, New Hampshire. In 1864, Otis Chase died and Rhoda Chase dropped from the record.4 In the 1865 Massachusetts census, brother and sister are living with Otis' older sister, Lydia A (Chase) Folsum and her husband, Joseph P. Folsum listed as Frank W. C. Folsum and Lizzie H. C. Folsum. Lydia died in 1868. In 1869, Joseph married Anne S. Bagley. The 1870 census lists the family with Joseph, Annie, Frank and Lizzie. Frank married Lizzie Bailey in 1880 and moved into his own home. Lizzie married Theodore A. Mcdonald in 1895. Lizzie and Theodore continued to live with Annie. Annie died in 1917. Lizzie died in 1935. Theodore listed her parents as Joseph Folsom and Annie Bagley. Theodore died in 1952.

1Running a search for the name William Bagley in any archive with Brooklyn newspapers leads to a lot of interesting articles. There are plenty of Bagley families running around Brooklyn and lower Manhattan. In addition to the two New England families, starting in the 1820s you start seeing Irish immigrant families with the name.
2Lizzie's five parents are Otis Chase, Rhoda Morgan, Joseph Fulsom, Lydia Ann Chase, and Annie Bagley.
3There is no New Hampshire birth record for Lizzie - her birth date is base on the 1900 census and the birthplace is based on her death and marriage records.
4I believe Otis was buried in Elmswood cemetery in Seabrook, New Hampshire. There are other members of his immediate family in the cemetery - his father, mother and at least one sister. The age given at the time of death would match his age as listed on census and marriage records.

Wednesday, October 5, 2016

The Missing Muda

Toyota list seven types of waste - transportation, inventory, motion, waiting, over-processing, over-production, defects. Others have added an eighth type to account for human waste - under utilizing the talents of employees. Engineers relish in making processes repeatable and removing variation. Some will relentlessly remove waste and improve a process until the process is reliable, efficient, and predictable. And deathly dull for the other people involved. 

I took my car in yesterday with the service engine soon light on. It had been arhythmic, not sounding right and hesitant at times, so I was not surprised when the mechanic reported the oxygen sensor had failed. I was assured the car could be fixed by the afternoon and I would be back on the road again. Except of course the dealer didn't have the part in stock. It would take a day to get the part. Waiting. Not the person on the factory floor. The person who wants your product or service. The one who casts the vote to keep you in business. The one who relies on your goods or services. 

What if I want to continue to use it for longer? What if I don't want to be part of a throw away culture? What if longevity trumps feature set in my paradigm? What if I don't want every new safety technology to prevent and ever increasingly small return on investment to prevent loss of life and accident? What if I want sustainable products that minimize the use of non-renewable resources? What if I want something that is easily recyclable?

In short, how do you prevent the muda of not meeting customers expectations?

Tuesday, July 12, 2016

Maria Augusta Stevenson and Lettie A. Thorndike

Once upon a time, Maria Augusta Standish married the Unitarian minister, Reverend Benjamin V. Stevenson. Maria was the daughter of Moses Standish, who was a descendant of Miles Standish, the pilgrim leader.

In 1846, Maria Stevenson gave birth to a daughter and died. The daughter was named Maria August Stevenson. She was born in Barre, Massachusetts. There is no record for the daughter's death. Reverend Stevenson remarried 18 months later and his new wife gave birth in New Hampshire to a daughter named Maria Augusta Stevenson.

Maria A. Standish had a younger sister named Vrylina. In 1851, Vrylina Standish married John J. Thorndike, the son of Nathaniel R. and Sarah E. (Giles) Thorndike. The Thorndikes had a daughter named Letitia "Lettie" Thorndike who was probably born in 1846 and married Louis E. Granger in 1870.

Perhaps Maria and Lettie are the same person:
  • There is no birth record for Lettie (Thorndike) Granger. Both girls were born in 1846.
  • The first record we have for Lettie is the 1850 census where she is listed as a four year old boy name Augstius. Should this have been Augusta?
  • Massachusetts didn't have an adoption law until 1851. An adoption would have been private and if it were recorded would have been in journals and letters.
  • The Thorndikes and Stevesons knew one another by 1851 because of the marriage of Vrylina and John. Did they know each other before then?
  • On the 1900 Census, Sarah acknowledges three births with one living child. Three sons' births are recorded and accounted for. John J would have been the living child. Lettie was still alive at the time. Did Sarah speak with the census taker? Did she not count Lettie, or was Lettie adopted?
It's quite likely, Maria Augusta Stevenson is not Lettie Thorndike. Maria Augusta Stevenson could have died and left no death record. Reverend Stevenson could have entrusted his daughter to someone in his Barre congregation. She could have been sent to live with another family member.

Sunday, June 12, 2016

New Zealand Hewlings

I've been trying to answer the question what happened to William and Samuel Hewlings, the younger half brothers of George Robert Hewlings? Interestingly, there is a Samuel Hewlings who was an early settler of New Zealand. He was born in about 1820, married a Maori woman, and had four daughters.1

Samuel has a brother named William who was married in Leicester. According to the 1841 census William was living in Leicester with his wife and children. He is the only one in the family who was not born in Leicester. Two of William's daughters came to New Zealand and were married there. In New Zealand they are clearly identified with Samuel.

The argument for the family connection is based on three observations:

  • Samuel and William are about the same age as  George's younger bothers.
  • I have been unable to find another pair of bothers named William and Samuel Hewlings in the readily accessible records.
  • George Freeman Hewlings went to New Zealand with his wife and daughter.
The argument against a family connection is fairly strong:
  • Samuel and William are common names in England. There is more than one Samuel Hewlings and more than one William Hewlings in the British Isles during the first half of the 19th century.
  • Not everyone is recorded - not having a record does not prove a person didn't exist.
  • Migrating to be near family is only one reason someone might move.
It is plausible William, Samuel and George Robert are brothers. It is likely. I can't prove it. 


1Here is a very nice write up. (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/hewlings.htm)

Saturday, May 28, 2016

Grandma Sadie and Grandma June

My father claims he didn't know his grandmother's first names until he was an adult. He always knew them as Grandma Sadie and Grandma June. Grandma Sadie was his mother's mother and Grandma June was his father's mother.2

Grandma Sadie was my father's favorite. He said he was blessed to have two women who loved him unconditionally - his mother and grandma Sadie. Grandma Sadie and I met briefly - I was born in March. She died in May. I am told, I visited Grandma Sadie in the hospital before she died.

Both Grandma Sadie and Grandma June were widows by the time my father was born in 1938. I have the impression that at one point both were living with or near my grandparents. At one point Grandma June and both her sons and daughters-in-law were sharing a house.Apparently, Aunt Melba didn't like the arrangement - she and Lamar moved out to their own house.

My grandfather, June's older son, loved to drive. After my Aunt Nancy was born, my grandfather decided to take the family out to Yellowstone for a long weekend. The baby was left with the two grandmothers. That night my grandmother had a dream that night and saw her baby in a pool of blood. Much to my grandfather's dismay my grandmother insisted the family return to Salt Lake. When they returned they found the grandmothers had been in a car accident and the baby had been in a pool of blood - the baby was fine, the blood had come from her grandmothers.

My niece Julie shares a name with Grandma June. Grandma Gladys, my grandmother, shares the same birthday - April 6, as her mother, Grandma Sadie.

1Grandma Sadie is Sarah Jane Dibble. Grandma June is Julia Lucretia Bagley.
21930 Federal Census, Utah Population schedules: Salt Lake County, Salt Lake City (EDs 18-1 to 18-11, 18-135 to 18-136, 18-12 to 18-21) [NARA, T626 roll 2418]